[Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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Do you want those changes ?

Yes
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No
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Total votes: 30
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Re: [Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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openBrain wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:07 pm
paddle wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:25 am For stop button a pref is possible, but then the question is about the default. Besides I think keeping everything as preference to please everyone, is not a good long term decision. So a poll is imo the best.
I don't see rationale to purely reject having options to customize interface. Especially when it comes at almost no cost as here.
With the preference packs being developed it makes a lot of sense, especially if the beginner packs/wizard that people have been musing for years ever appear.
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Re: [Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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Bance wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:54 am With the preference packs being developed it makes a lot of sense, especially if the beginner packs/wizard that people have been musing for years ever appear.
It's a possibility, but I don't see the point of keeping it altogether. It's not as if it brings any advance functionality. It's just a duplicated button. The toolbar has a 'leave sketch' button which is exactly for that.

Imo this 'Close' button has been added for bad reasons in the first place. I opened a topic in UX: https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=73716
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Re: [Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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I'm not so concerned with that per se, more the generality.
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Re: [Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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paddle wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:52 am what do you think of the following idea ?
I am OK with:

* Leaving everything as is

* Rearranging to satisfy some mysterious need for change

As long as options do not disappear or get buried deep inside multiple click paths, have fun with your mania. :mrgreen:

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Re: [Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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paddle wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:52 am
paddle wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:52 am A - Auto update : We add a menu to update button directly.

B - Auto-constraint + auto remove redundant : In the upcoming new constraint widget (it will look like current new Element widget) setting button.

C - Avoid redundant auto-constraint : removed from everywhere. If we want to do that later, we can just add it to constraint widget setting button too for now.

D - Rendering order : In the Element widget setting button as a QActionWidget.
I like to have these out of the way.

With all the different needs and options and tries to find a one-fits-all solution nad last but not least, all the time you invest: Wouldn't it be better to create a slim framework so that a user can arrange his own widgets?
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Re: [Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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This effort, and the corresponding PR's seems to have gone stale. Are the any pending concerns that are still outstanding? I haven't seen any either in this thread or on github.

According to the documents adopted regarding contribution of PR's:

12. Maintainers SHALL merge valid PRs from other Contributors rapidly.
13. Maintainers MAY, at their discretion merge PRs that have not met all criteria to be considered valid to:
1. end fruitless discussions

Have we reached the 'fruitless discussion phase' regarding this? Additionally, it would seem that if merging such a PR into the master dev branch proves to be dysfunctional or largely unpopular, it could be reverted afterwards. Yes? No?
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Re: [Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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obelisk79 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:31 pm This effort, and the corresponding PR seems to have gone stale. Are the any pending concerns that are still outstanding?
This is a wide-ranging and somewhat rambling topic, but it appears at least some of the changes were added a while ago. In particular the new show/hide function for constraints has been around for several weeks.

Frankly I think that change was rather awful. The new scheme is much more difficult to use for me than the old one. Perhaps I work differently than the "changer" intended, but this new "eyeball" method just does not work. :(

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Re: [Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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GeneFC wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:41 pm Frankly I think that change was rather awful. The new scheme is much more difficult to use for me than the old one. Perhaps I work differently than the "changer" intended, but this new "eyeball" method just does not work. :(

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Gene, I have to agree with you on that, I think the new method for displaying sketch elements was a good idea gone wrong. It feels clunky and I find it visually distracting on my screen. I thought some other ideas presented for that one made more sense.

The PR I was referencing was this one, which seemed rather sane to me: https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/pull/7854

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Re: [Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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obelisk79 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:46 pm The PR I was referencing was this one, which seemed rather sane to me: https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/pull/7854
That one seems OK.

As I said this topic has rambled on a number of subjects and has become a bit too complex for further sensible discussion.

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Re: [Poll] Sketcher: Task panel rework.

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Is this the right thread to ask about using features of the Task panel rework?

I have a couple questions about the new information displayed in the Elements widget (is widget the right word for the sub panels?)
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