I really want to, but my skill are still to weak.
Greetings
user1234
Thanks! And neither are mine
I see this from time to time and I want to push back.
Already contributed, is not the case that i am lazy or want to be a parasite and only want to benfit of the work of FreeCAD and want not to give anything back. But i work minimum 60h in a week (on my own, often more) and i am often on sites for some time. And there are often no telephone or internet connection, or even a computer (besides i am often wrecked from the work).
I know you're a contributor. Sorry if that came across as critical. I was trying to push back on the idea that it's all about the code.
That is easy because when you are gonna ask the same question a dozen of times you can be a little bit irritating too. The problem is however that the same issue is here and it doesn't change. That is the fundamental issue.paddle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:01 am I personally understand all the people who are criticizing FreeCAD learning curve. As I myself tasted that frustration and raged-quit twice before trying again a third. I can't understand people condescendingly saying 'It's just a different way of doing things you idiots!'.
Yes, and we all know them (well I know a couple of them).There are a lot of things that makes no sens in FreeCAD and that are down right frustrating. Besides a lot of quality of life features are missing.
This for example.Frustrating things example : Try to copy paste a sketch. That should be easy yet somehow it ends up so puzzling.
Another example : Carbon copy tool. If you are not pressing whatever key combinaison that I don't even remember, you can't select a non-parallel sketch. And to know that you have to read the status bar. I mean the guy just want to copy paste a sketch because he was intimidated by the 'Dependency selector', and he just can't get a rest.
I agree and I think that this kind of things need to be fixed. But the main question is: How can these issues be fixed?It's very easy to turn the blind eye on these kind of issue when you're already an expert of the thing. But when you learn from scratch a new software it's just so painful.
And, here we are back at the same point every one of these new user complaint threads reaches.
Me too: I recently wanted to show FreeCAD to my brother, also en engineer, and wanted to guide him through all the initial installation process and show the first steps to create something useful. So we started with a fresh FreeCAD install, with the default config, and indeed, FreeCAD is not usable in that state. Not usable as in : "not usable". It's IMPOSSIBLE to get ANYTHING done in a fresh stock FreeCAD install. Heck, there isn't a proper tree-view, it's mixed with the property and task and selector and whatever panels, it needs to be manually enabled in the preferences in some hidden corner ! ALL CAD programs have a tree-view on the left side of the window, but some smart-arse thinks that FreeCAD should NOT have this by default, but should hide it behind some obscure undocumented configuration option with the label "beware of the leopard".
Yes, that's the whole point: FreeCAD internals are very good, powerful and easy to use, and the UI can be tweaked to both look good and be functional. Keyword being : "CAN BE". But by defaults it's not. By defaults it's ugly and dysfunctional. There were projects about user preferences pack, where did that one go ? Some people collected various power-user config files, what did that bring ? There was a thread about default workbenches to include, did it bring some answers ?paddle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:01 am Which doesn't mean that the whole FreeCAD is a bad thing. A lot of things are perfectly good, even better than commercial softwares. It's just the annoying things that spoil the whole thing.
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It's very easy to turn the blind eye on these kind of issue when you're already an expert of the thing. But when you learn from scratch a new software it's just so painful.