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Re: (WORKAROUND) Question about extrude
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:18 pm
by thomas-neemann
TheMarkster wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:41 pm
One workaround is make a compound of the wire. Part menu -> Compound -> make compound. Then select the compound and extrude it.
thanks for the cooperation, it works. could also be used for other cases
Re: (WORKAROUND) Question about extrude
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:59 pm
by mfro
You can also just redraw the wire with SnapEndpoint and use that - I'd suggest there is something fishy with its placement
Re: (WORKAROUND) Question about extrude
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:03 pm
by thomas-neemann
mfro wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:59 pm
You can also just redraw the wire with SnapEndpoint and use that - I'd suggest there is something fishy with its placement
This doesn't work for me if I understand correctly.
Re: (WORKAROUND) Question about extrude
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:14 pm
by mfro
thomas-neemann wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:03 pm
mfro wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:59 pm
You can also just redraw the wire with SnapEndpoint and use that - I'd suggest there is something fishy with its placement
This doesn't work for me if I understand correctly.
It did for me - after first aligning the workplane.
Re: (WORKAROUND) Question about extrude
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:34 am
by thomas-neemann
mfro wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:14 pm
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thanks, that works, there seems to be a context to where the workplane is when creating the wire
Re: (WORKAROUND) Question about extrude
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:04 am
by uwestoehr
thomas-neemann wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:17 am
if i want to extrude this face (in part)
Can anybody confirm this?
No, works nicely here.
Here is my result file, one time I directly extruded the wire in Part along the direction (1, -1, 0), and the other time I added a ShapeBinder to the wire so that I can extrude it in PartDesign. The latter has the advantage that the normal direction can be determined automatically.
Re: (WORKAROUND) Question about extrude
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:23 am
by thomas-neemann
thanks for the cooperation. yes, these solutions are no problem for an advanced user. I'm in the process of producing exercises for beginners. my solution now looks like this ( from min 2:38 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbT7yPXSBQ8
Re: (WORKAROUND) Question about extrude
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:13 am
by chrisb
I can confirm the issue from OP here.
I can also confirm Uwe's observation that it works with a ShapeBinder.
@uwestoehr: Please add your full FreeCAD infos.
@thomas-neemann: For future posts: Please try in master before posting or post to the Link branch subforum.
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Re: (WORKAROUND) Question about extrude
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:16 am
by thomas-neemann
chrisb wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:13 am
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@thomas-neemann: For future posts: Please try in master before posting or post to the Link branch subforum.
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yes, i've been trying to do that for some time, but in the rush it can fail from time to time. but it should be right here
first post:
- Bildschirmfoto_2022-06-30_10-14-08.png (24.03 KiB) Viewed 558 times
Re: (WORKAROUND) Question about extrude
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:22 pm
by uwestoehr
thomas-neemann wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:23 am
thanks for the cooperation. yes, these solutions are no problem for an advanced user. I'm in the process of producing exercises for beginners.
But your use case is nothing for beginners. my experience is that it works best by telling that one can start with a sketch, so imagine a sheet of paper and we draw on it. This is how the sketcher WB works. When the sketch is finished, we can extrude the sketch.
Your example uses a Wire, no sketch and it is not on a "paper sheet", meaning not on the XY base plane. Sketching in inclined planes requires some FreeCAD experience. (Concept of a datum plane, concept of attachments to planes/objects etc.) You first need to introduce this and each concept requires a video to explain it and a second one that users can practice it.
my feedback to your video is therefore:
- slow down, people need time to follow you
- take time to explain WHY you do something
- focus on a single task per video. using several workbenches requires a lot of background info (concept of workbenches, introduction to every used workbench, explanations how to work across workbenches and its limitations...)
So what you do in your 5 min video requires that users worked already some hours with FreeCAD.
Side note: please encourage users to end up with technical drawings they can share with others. This will prevent some frustrations in my experience, also to my personal experience once I learned FreeCAD. Sooner or later you need to manufacture your part and then you are forced to specify tolerances. This happened for me even when I sent a STL to a 3D printing shop.
In your case you end up with a screenshot. I would omit this because this implies to beginners that this is a sufficient end of a construction.