BOLTS for architectural components?

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Re: BOLTS for architectural components?

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I am trying to follow but do not understand how this works for architectural component. Any example so that people may follow to work on other items ? T

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Re: BOLTS for architectural components?

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At the moment we are only collecting architectural data in a spreadsheet but the data isn't yet part of BOLTS nor is it supported by any backends.

There is a discussion on the OSArch forums on how to best handle architectural data: https://community.osarch.org/discussion ... or-plan/p2 - basically looking for a solution that 1) allows people to easily customise the style of the architectural object because architects have preferences for style 2) lets people use their favourite tool e.g. FreeCAD/Sverchok/Geometry nodes/Python code to generate it and 3) minimises the work needed and can share IFC geometry, OpenCASCADE Breps, or pure tessellations to support as many free software as possible.

Later on for product catalogue-based furniture / fixtures we might need to start collecting meshes / BReps and building up an asset library.

So I guess for now there is still a lot of work to be done in simple data collection of architectural dimensions around the world. Here's the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0 if you send me your email address I can give you edit access and you can add in whatever you need based on your architectural knowledge of your country's requirements.

I strongly believe that BOLTS has the potential to become the most authoritative open source technical specifications database across all arch/eng/construction disciplines. Things like MEP equipment product specifications, or construction crane statistics like angles and loads, resource productivity rates for cost planning and scheduling, GWP data for LCA ... and although it might seem strange to mix all this together in BOLTS which was originally intended for literally bolts and washers, I see a huge overlap in steel profiles, costing, LCA, scheduling, the FOSS tools that use it ...
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Re: BOLTS for architectural components?

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Thanks @Laurie Hartley ! I have forwarded it to Andrej, the developer who is kindly working on bringing the data into BOLTS and integrating it into IFC :) (though I'm not sure Zeds will make it into FreeCAD, I think @bernd needs to build support for Zeds with lips)
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Re: BOLTS for architectural components?

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Moult wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:24 pm Thanks @Laurie Hartley ! I have forwarded it to Andrej, the developer who is kindly working on bringing the data into BOLTS and integrating it into IFC :) (though I'm not sure Zeds will make it into FreeCAD, I think @bernd needs to build support for Zeds with lips)
I am not sure if this will help because I don’t know anything about code, but I see a connection to the Zed problem in this stunning solution that @Shalmeneser gave me on how to produce a Cee purlin. A simple line sketch + the Sheetmetal workbench!
https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic. ... 57#p636057
https://wiki.freecadweb.org/SheetMetal_AddBase
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Re: BOLTS for architectural components?

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Moult wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:22 pm At the moment we are only collecting architectural data in a spreadsheet but the data isn't yet part of BOLTS nor is it supported by any backends.

There is a discussion on the OSArch forums on how to best handle architectural data: https://community.osarch.org/discussion ... or-plan/p2 - basically looking for a solution that 1) allows people to easily customise the style of the architectural object because architects have preferences for style 2) lets people use their favourite tool e.g. FreeCAD/Sverchok/Geometry nodes/Python code to generate it and 3) minimises the work needed and can share IFC geometry, OpenCASCADE Breps, or pure tessellations to support as many free software as possible.
Thanks for the information :) Seems lot of works indeed. I'll see how it goes and at what point I can understand the workflow and contribute.
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Re: BOLTS for architectural components?

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bernd wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:10 am @Laurie:
so you really have standard welded profiles? See my comment here https://github.com/boltsparts/boltspart ... 1305177118
Apologies for the late reply Bernd. The answer is yes we do.
https://www.cad-steel.info/steel-sections/welded-beams
Bluescope Manufacture them - See screenshot.
Actually the two main beams on the St Paul's Restoration we re 1200 welded beams.
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Re: BOLTS for architectural components?

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Moult did ask some engineer too because I would not have belive it :oops:

BTW: They are part of BOLTS already ...
https://boltsparts.github.io/en/parts/n ... ofile.html
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Re: BOLTS for architectural components?

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It definitely makes sense to include architectural components in BOLTS. Having standard sizes for things like beds, tables, and fixtures would be beneficial. This would make it much easier to design buildings and interiors that are both functional and aesthetically pleasing.

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Re: BOLTS for architectural components?

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An update that although architectural stuff is not (yet?) in BOLTS we now generate a ton of libraries from what you saw in the architectural spreadsheet linked earlier. This is now distributed as an IFC library, and we hope to continually extend it in the future.
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Re: BOLTS for architectural components?

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Maybe an example of the workflow or any pointer to it would be very helpful :)
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